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Sometimes she's complaining about the local moms with their green drinks and Fitbits who constantly tell her she’s “so real.” But more often than not, she’s going on about her Alex P.

Keaton-like teenage son and green juice-drinking teenage daughter, who Katie says she’s trying to “help fit in less.” Katie is also trying to help her youngest, Anna-Kat, who has a bit of obsessive-compulsive disorder, “fit in more.” No surprise, Anna-Kat is her favorite child, even if it is surprising to hear a mom actually admit that out loud.

And they often have to do it all while looking a certain way.

“I really don’t think you need to be 40 and have three kids and have a body of an 18-year-old,” Dunn says, echoing something Katie says nearly word for word in the pilot.


With 10 writers — an equal split of male and female with experience ranging from one who’s never worked in TV to others who’ve been doing it for 20 years — she feels the pressure not just to make the show funny but successful as well. “All I care about is women.”Specifically, she's focused on women who don’t often see themselves on TV, which includes Dunn.

See, for example, Chrissy Teigen who, after having her baby girl Luna, was mommy-shamed for going out to dinner with husband John Legend.

This, despite making the valid point on Twitter that an hour out of the house means, “Happy mommy, happy daddy, happy baby.” Women are required to do it all, but in a way that the rest of society, or at least, the internet, sees fit.

"That’s a conflicting situation for a lot of women,” says Dunn, who was a stay-at-home mom and novelist before creating this series.

"It’s really difficult and it sucks, and even though you choose it, doesn’t make it suck any less."Dunn feels the situation is only made worse by the fact that women aren’t really allowed to be honest about the pressures of motherhood without being judged.“Everyone has to pay their mortgage, so the scripts better be good.”Dunn often used to say in pitch meetings that she was making this show for women. She proudly says that the best part of pitching this show was not having to wear Spanx to any of the meetings — something that had just become part of the routine.


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